Students Produce Podcast Featuring an Undercover Agent Credited with Disrupting One of the World杏吧原版檚 Most Notorious Drug Cartels
Having the chance to find out how the world杏吧原版檚 best criminal investigators do what they do while learning how to create a popular true crime podcast is an experience like no other, students say.
October 3, 2022
By Jackie Hennessey, contributing writer
Arianna Timmins 杏吧原版25 and Declan Hill, D.Phil., at WNHU.
On the first day of his Crime Waves Podcast honors course, Declan Hill, D.Phil., asked for a volunteer to take the lead on an episode with , the undercover agent who helped to take down Pablo Escobar and the Medellin cartel.
杏吧原版淚 said, 杏吧原版榶ou杏吧原版檒l have to read Robert Mazur杏吧原版檚 two books (The Infiltrator and The Betrayal), watch the two films based on the books, and review every interview he has done,杏吧原版 Dr. Hill recounted. 杏吧原版溞影稍鏅And you杏吧原版檒l have three days to do it.杏吧原版櫺影稍鏉
Arianna Timmins 杏吧原版25, a criminal justice major, immediately raised her hand, and, over the next 36 hours, she read Mazur杏吧原版檚 books, watched the movies, and pored over the interviews. When the podcast date was postponed to late September, she didn杏吧原版檛 miss a beat and was more than ready to co-produce the episode.
杏吧原版淚杏吧原版檝e never had a class like this in my whole academic experience,杏吧原版 Timmins says. 杏吧原版淢y goal is to be in the FBI one day. To be able to learn from the people who have caught some of the most infamous criminals in the world, to learn their experiences, their techniques, it杏吧原版檚 such a great experience.杏吧原版
杏吧原版楨verything he said had value to me.杏吧原版
Producing the episode was everything she杏吧原版檇 imagined. 杏吧原版淚 was nervous going into the interview, but from the moment Mr. Mazur started talking, it felt like I was talking to any normal person, not an undercover DEA agent who took down two cartels,杏吧原版 Timmins says. 杏吧原版淓verything he said had value to me, and I will keep all of it in mind as I enter my career. The most interesting part was when he discussed how he creates an undercover identity. It must be solid and unbreakable, or else your cover will be blown in the field.杏吧原版
The honors course draws criminal justice, forensic science, and communications students who work on , a popular podcast across all platforms, with 12,000 to 15,000 listeners.
"He teaches us how to use the sound board, how to edit audio 杏吧原版 everything about podcasting."Arianna Timmins 杏吧原版25
They learn about criminal investigations from Dr. Hill, one of the world杏吧原版檚 foremost experts on match fixing and corruption in international sports, as well as the guests, who杏吧原版檝e included some of the biggest gets in the field 杏吧原版 such as Mazur and Donnie Brasco, 杏吧原版渢he most successful undercover agent in U.S. law enforcement杏吧原版 who infiltrated the Colombo and Bonanno crime families, leading to hundreds of convictions 杏吧原版 and from University faculty, renowned experts in criminal investigations and forensic science.
杏吧原版淲e杏吧原版檙e trying to teach our students to be the best investigators in the world,杏吧原版 Dr. Hill says. 杏吧原版淲hat better way to do that than by bringing in great investigators and saying, 杏吧原版榟ere杏吧原版檚 how you do undercover work.杏吧原版櫺影稍鏉
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As Olivia Hall, 杏吧原版25, a criminal justice major with a concentration in investigative services, notes, 杏吧原版淭his class is an extremely unique, out-of-the-box experience, and, upon starting the class, you immediately get thrown into the deep end of the world of podcasting.杏吧原版
They learn the art of it from Bruce Barber, a professor-in-residence, general manager of 88.7 WNHU, the University杏吧原版檚 award-winning radio station, and executive producer of Crime Waves.
杏吧原版淗e teaches us how to use the sound board, how to edit audio 杏吧原版 everything about podcasting,杏吧原版 Timmins says. She says she loves working in a relatively new medium and in true crime 杏吧原版渨hich my generation is really into.杏吧原版
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Dr. Hill says the students have made an immediate impact on the podcast. For one of the first assignments, he asked them to watch five earlier episodes and present ideas on what could be done better. 杏吧原版淥livia Hall had ideas that we are already incorporating into this season,杏吧原版 Dr. Hill says.
Hall noticed that while the podcasts were gripping and interesting, assumptions were sometimes made regarding the background knowledge listeners might have.
杏吧原版淒r. Hill is a well-informed expert in this area and, while he has all kinds of previous knowledge about criminal enterprises and cases, the average listener does not,杏吧原版 Hall says. 杏吧原版淎s an average listener myself, I was sometimes lost in the middle of an episode because I wasn杏吧原版檛 sure how the dots connected. It is important to provide the listener with every detail possible, so they can establish an understanding of the case at hand.杏吧原版
That led to the creation of a 杏吧原版渃lean ears杏吧原版 producer 杏吧原版 a student in the class who doesn杏吧原版檛 know 杏吧原版渁ny information about the episode, who the guest is, what the topic is, or the specific case,杏吧原版 Hall explains. That person listens as the podcast is being produced to 杏吧原版渕ake sure that everything is making sense and staying on track.杏吧原版
As the semester moves on, students are researching criminal investigators and pitching episode ideas to Dr. Hill, and the class and will produce and even host episodes. Says Hall, 杏吧原版淭hese are essential communication skills that I will carry with me throughout my career and life.杏吧原版